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asimov - the last question
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tim
2013-03-25 05:35:09 UTC
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Joel Olson
2013-03-26 04:37:12 UTC
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http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.

A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.

Add, subtract, insert, continue?
tim
2013-03-26 14:27:12 UTC
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Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or are
they the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata, which was
about a politically benign society about to sublime confronting the
possibility the entire basis for their civilization was a lie. I'm
beginning to think politics and religion are the same thing.
Joel Olson
2013-03-29 02:06:00 UTC
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Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or are they
the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata, which was about a
politically benign society about to sublime confronting the possibility the
entire basis for their civilization was a lie. I'm beginning to think
politics and religion are the same thing.
I sure hold the same degree of certainty about global warming as many of
the stalwart Baptists. Given the time lags involved, I can't think of anything
that would refute it within the time I have left.

Yes, Banks would definitely extend the sequence. A new book? Great news.
tim
2013-03-29 04:57:33 UTC
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Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or are
they the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata, which was
about a politically benign society about to sublime confronting the
possibility the entire basis for their civilization was a lie. I'm
beginning to think politics and religion are the same thing.
I sure hold the same degree of certainty about global warming as many of
the stalwart Baptists. Given the time lags involved, I can't think of anything
that would refute it within the time I have left.
Yes, Banks would definitely extend the sequence. A new book? Great news.
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your reading
pleasure.
Joel Olson
2013-03-31 19:44:33 UTC
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Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or are
they the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata, which was
about a politically benign society about to sublime confronting the
possibility the entire basis for their civilization was a lie. I'm
beginning to think politics and religion are the same thing.
I sure hold the same degree of certainty about global warming as many of
the stalwart Baptists. Given the time lags involved, I can't think of anything
that would refute it within the time I have left.
Yes, Banks would definitely extend the sequence. A new book? Great news.
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your reading
pleasure.
The one area that I keep a decent inventory on is the SF. Each author rates 3
files: Get, Have, All (includes essays, reviews, intros., etc.)

I have most of his, and will update from ISFDB.


Iain M. Banks
Fiction Series

* Culture
p o 1 Consider Phlebas (1987)
p o 2 The Player of Games (1988)
P o 3 The State of the Art (1989) [SF]
p o 4 Use of Weapons (1990)
p o 5 Excession (1996)
p o 6 Inversions (1998)
p o 7 Look to Windward (2000)
P o 8 Matter (2008)

p Use of Weapons (1990)

Novels

p * Against a Dark Background (1993)
P * The Algebraist (2004)
H * Transition (2009)

Collections

p * The State of the Art (1989)
tim
2013-03-31 20:35:00 UTC
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Post by Joel Olson
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Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or
are they the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata,
which was about a politically benign society about to sublime
confronting the possibility the entire basis for their civilization was
a lie. I'm beginning to think politics and religion are the same
thing.
I sure hold the same degree of certainty about global warming as many of
the stalwart Baptists. Given the time lags involved, I can't think of anything
that would refute it within the time I have left.
Yes, Banks would definitely extend the sequence. A new book? Great news.
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your
reading pleasure.
The one area that I keep a decent inventory on is the SF. Each author rates 3
files: Get, Have, All (includes essays, reviews, intros., etc.)
I have most of his, and will update from ISFDB.
Iain M. Banks
Fiction Series
* Culture
p o 1 Consider Phlebas (1987)
p o 2 The Player of Games (1988)
P o 3 The State of the Art (1989) [SF]
p o 4 Use of Weapons (1990)
p o 5 Excession (1996)
p o 6 Inversions (1998)
p o 7 Look to Windward (2000)
P o 8 Matter (2008)
p Use of Weapons (1990)
Novels
p * Against a Dark Background (1993)
P * The Algebraist (2004)
H * Transition (2009)
Collections
p * The State of the Art (1989)
You are missing Feersum Endjinn, there are 14 in all. Feersum Endjinn is an
extremely odd story, written in some sort of patios, but I liked it a lot
and loved the ending. Worth reading. And, if you haven't read it, The Wasp
Factory, Banks' first novel, is an unforgettable read. Five stars.
Joel Olson
2013-04-23 03:33:39 UTC
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Post by Joel Olson
Post by tim
Post by Joel Olson
Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or are
they the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata, which was
about a politically benign society about to sublime confronting the
possibility the entire basis for their civilization was a lie. I'm
beginning to think politics and religion are the same thing.
I sure hold the same degree of certainty about global warming as many of
the stalwart Baptists. Given the time lags involved, I can't think of anything
that would refute it within the time I have left.
Yes, Banks would definitely extend the sequence. A new book? Great news.
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your reading
pleasure.
The one area that I keep a decent inventory on is the SF. Each author rates 3
files: Get, Have, All (includes essays, reviews, intros., etc.)
I have most of his, and will update from ISFDB.
Iain M. Banks
Fiction Series
* Culture
p o 1 Consider Phlebas (1987)
p o 2 The Player of Games (1988)
P o 3 The State of the Art (1989) [SF]
p o 4 Use of Weapons (1990)
p o 5 Excession (1996)
p o 6 Inversions (1998)
p o 7 Look to Windward (2000)
P o 8 Matter (2008)
p Use of Weapons (1990)
Novels
p * Against a Dark Background (1993)
P * The Algebraist (2004)
H * Transition (2009)
Collections
p * The State of the Art (1989)
You are missing Feersum Endjinn, there are 14 in all. Feersum Endjinn is an
extremely odd story, written in some sort of patios, but I liked it a lot and
loved the ending. Worth reading. And, if you haven't read it, The Wasp
Factory, Banks' first novel, is an unforgettable read. Five stars.
Have/Read both, agree with your assessment. Seems every author, at some
time, has to experiment with spelling.

"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way." - M. Twain
tim
2013-04-23 20:14:31 UTC
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Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or
are they the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata,
which was about a politically benign society about to sublime
confronting the possibility the entire basis for their civilization
was a lie. I'm beginning to think politics and religion are the same
thing.
I sure hold the same degree of certainty about global warming as many of
the stalwart Baptists. Given the time lags involved, I can't think of anything
that would refute it within the time I have left.
Yes, Banks would definitely extend the sequence. A new book? Great news.
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your
reading pleasure.
The one area that I keep a decent inventory on is the SF. Each author rates 3
files: Get, Have, All (includes essays, reviews, intros., etc.)
I have most of his, and will update from ISFDB.
Iain M. Banks
Fiction Series
* Culture
p o 1 Consider Phlebas (1987)
p o 2 The Player of Games (1988)
P o 3 The State of the Art (1989) [SF]
p o 4 Use of Weapons (1990)
p o 5 Excession (1996)
p o 6 Inversions (1998)
p o 7 Look to Windward (2000)
P o 8 Matter (2008)
p Use of Weapons (1990)
Novels
p * Against a Dark Background (1993)
P * The Algebraist (2004)
H * Transition (2009)
Collections
p * The State of the Art (1989)
You are missing Feersum Endjinn, there are 14 in all. Feersum Endjinn is
an extremely odd story, written in some sort of patios, but I liked it a
lot and loved the ending. Worth reading. And, if you haven't read it,
The Wasp Factory, Banks' first novel, is an unforgettable read. Five
stars.
Have/Read both, agree with your assessment. Seems every author, at some
time, has to experiment with spelling.
"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way." - M. Twain
No cents in crying over spelled milque.
Joel Olson
2013-04-25 17:00:54 UTC
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Post by tim
http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
I don't remember reading that before, but then there are a LOT of
books on my wall that I can say that about.
A thread came up on FB yesterday, as usual, starting with mentions
of 1984 and Brave New World, to which I quickly added Fahrenheit
451. After some side discussion, we returned to ask what the next
few books in that vein would be. I suggested Silverberg's The World
Inside and Brunner's The Sheep Look Up.
Add, subtract, insert, continue?
Political oppression and radical political correctness combined? Or are
they the same thing. Just finished Banks' The Hydrogen Sonata, which
was about a politically benign society about to sublime confronting the
possibility the entire basis for their civilization was a lie. I'm
beginning to think politics and religion are the same thing.
I sure hold the same degree of certainty about global warming as many of
the stalwart Baptists. Given the time lags involved, I can't think of anything
that would refute it within the time I have left.
Yes, Banks would definitely extend the sequence. A new book? Great news.
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your
reading pleasure.
The one area that I keep a decent inventory on is the SF. Each author rates 3
files: Get, Have, All (includes essays, reviews, intros., etc.)
I have most of his, and will update from ISFDB.
Iain M. Banks
Fiction Series
* Culture
p o 1 Consider Phlebas (1987)
p o 2 The Player of Games (1988)
P o 3 The State of the Art (1989) [SF]
p o 4 Use of Weapons (1990)
p o 5 Excession (1996)
p o 6 Inversions (1998)
p o 7 Look to Windward (2000)
P o 8 Matter (2008)
p Use of Weapons (1990)
Novels
p * Against a Dark Background (1993)
P * The Algebraist (2004)
H * Transition (2009)
Collections
p * The State of the Art (1989)
You are missing Feersum Endjinn, there are 14 in all. Feersum Endjinn is an
extremely odd story, written in some sort of patios, but I liked it a lot
and loved the ending. Worth reading. And, if you haven't read it, The Wasp
Factory, Banks' first novel, is an unforgettable read. Five stars.
Have/Read both, agree with your assessment. Seems every author, at some
time, has to experiment with spelling.
"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way." - M. Twain
No cents in crying over spelled milque.
:-)
High Miles
2013-04-05 23:07:09 UTC
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I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The
Wasp Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for
your reading pleasure.
<
That Wasp Factory is some tale.
I've loaned it to several friends to introduce them to a fine story teller.
Joel Olson
2013-04-23 03:36:37 UTC
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Post by tim
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your reading
pleasure.
<
That Wasp Factory is some tale.
I've loaned it to several friends to introduce them to a fine story teller.
Neal Gaiman has some of a similar strangeness.
tim
2013-04-23 20:16:43 UTC
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Post by Joel Olson
Post by High Miles
Post by tim
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your
reading pleasure.
<
That Wasp Factory is some tale.
I've loaned it to several friends to introduce them to a fine story teller.
Neal Gaiman has some of a similar strangeness.
Title?

Philip Jose Farmer, P.K. Dick, of course.
Joel Olson
2013-04-25 17:06:53 UTC
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Post by Joel Olson
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Post by tim
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The Wasp
Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for your
reading pleasure.
<
That Wasp Factory is some tale.
I've loaned it to several friends to introduce them to a fine story teller.
Neal Gaiman has some of a similar strangeness.
Title?
Philip Jose Farmer, P.K. Dick, of course.
Still a Farmer fan, but don't think he's weird enough for this company.

Neil Gaiman, _American Gods_
China Mieville, _Kraken_

Both strange, but less psychotic than Wasp Factory.
tim
2013-04-25 20:53:03 UTC
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Post by tim
Post by Joel Olson
Post by High Miles
Post by tim
I have all of Banks' science fiction works plus The Bridge and The
Wasp Factory if you'd like me to box 'em up and send then to you for
your reading pleasure.
<
That Wasp Factory is some tale.
I've loaned it to several friends to introduce them to a fine story teller.
Neal Gaiman has some of a similar strangeness.
Title?
Philip Jose Farmer, P.K. Dick, of course.
Still a Farmer fan, but don't think he's weird enough for this company.
Neil Gaiman, _American Gods_
China Mieville, _Kraken_
Both strange, but less psychotic than Wasp Factory.
Thanks, Joel. I'll look for both of them.

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