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Joel Olson
2013-04-23 17:36:49 UTC
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tim
2013-04-23 20:09:15 UTC
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R.U.R., Brave New World, and in film, Metropolis and Modern Times. I'm
re-reading Oath of Fealty, Niven and Pournelle, 1981. It is dreary and
dated, wrong in almost every way, and reads like a wise-ass version of Ayn
Rand. Ugh, pew, meh. Not all science fiction is worth reading. For sure.

Tiger! Tiger!, Bester, Childhood's End, Ender's Game, anything by LeGuin...
Joel Olson
2013-04-25 16:47:07 UTC
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/apr/19/bill-compulsory-science-fiction-west-virginia?CMP=twt_gu
R.U.R., Brave New World, and in film, Metropolis and Modern Times. I'm
re-reading Oath of Fealty, Niven and Pournelle, 1981. It is dreary and dated,
wrong in almost every way, and reads like a wise-ass version of Ayn Rand.
Ugh, pew, meh. Not all science fiction is worth reading. For sure.
Tiger! Tiger!, Bester, Childhood's End, Ender's Game, anything by LeGuin...
Classics. But would more contemporary selections be better? Some of those
short stories were very good, raised good questions, and were of course
readable in short enough times for the weaker students to persevere through.
(Going through a couple of Years Best anthologies, & noting authors.)

There's a 4-movie DVD available from EdwardRHamilton (7.95), Sphere, Contact,
Lost in Space and Red Planet - not my top picks for movies, but all much better
than run-of-the-mill SF on film. Best SF movies? Blade Runner, Handmaid's Tale,
what else ?
tim
2013-04-25 20:32:47 UTC
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Post by Joel Olson
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/apr/19/bill-compulsory-science-fiction-west-virginia?CMP=twt_gu
R.U.R., Brave New World, and in film, Metropolis and Modern Times. I'm
re-reading Oath of Fealty, Niven and Pournelle, 1981. It is dreary and
dated, wrong in almost every way, and reads like a wise-ass version of
Ayn Rand. Ugh, pew, meh. Not all science fiction is worth reading. For
sure.
Tiger! Tiger!, Bester, Childhood's End, Ender's Game, anything by LeGuin...
Classics. But would more contemporary selections be better? Some of those
short stories were very good, raised good questions, and were of course
readable in short enough times for the weaker students to persevere through.
(Going through a couple of Years Best anthologies, & noting authors.)
There's a 4-movie DVD available from EdwardRHamilton (7.95), Sphere, Contact,
Lost in Space and Red Planet - not my top picks for movies, but all much better
than run-of-the-mill SF on film. Best SF movies? Blade Runner, Handmaid's Tale,
what else ?
For pure schlock value, Forbidden Planet, The Day The Earth Stood Still,
Rocketship X-M (critics hated it), and I loved Close Encounters of the Third
Kind the first of 20 times I've seen it. A child of the 50s, of course,
loved THEM! and The Thing. When Planets Collide... Can't get into Solaris,
though. The original was the better of the two. Dustin Hoffman should not
go to space. :-)
Joel Olson
2013-04-27 07:51:56 UTC
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/apr/19/bill-compulsory-science-fiction-west-virginia?CMP=twt_gu
R.U.R., Brave New World, and in film, Metropolis and Modern Times. I'm
re-reading Oath of Fealty, Niven and Pournelle, 1981. It is dreary and
dated, wrong in almost every way, and reads like a wise-ass version of Ayn
Rand. Ugh, pew, meh. Not all science fiction is worth reading. For sure.
Tiger! Tiger!, Bester, Childhood's End, Ender's Game, anything by LeGuin...
Classics. But would more contemporary selections be better? Some of those
short stories were very good, raised good questions, and were of course
readable in short enough times for the weaker students to persevere through.
(Going through a couple of Years Best anthologies, & noting authors.)
There's a 4-movie DVD available from EdwardRHamilton (7.95), Sphere, Contact,
Lost in Space and Red Planet - not my top picks for movies, but all much better
than run-of-the-mill SF on film. Best SF movies? Blade Runner, Handmaid's Tale,
what else ?
For pure schlock value, Forbidden Planet, The Day The Earth Stood Still,
Rocketship X-M (critics hated it), and I loved Close Encounters of the Third
Kind the first of 20 times I've seen it. A child of the 50s, of course, loved
THEM! and The Thing. When Planets Collide... Can't get into Solaris, though.
The original was the better of the two. Dustin Hoffman should not go to
space. :-)
Yes, Forbidden Planet made a very strong impression on me, may have switched
me away from Westerns. Yes, Close Encounters. Alien, Species?
tim
2013-04-27 15:39:13 UTC
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/apr/19/bill-compulsory-science-fiction-west-virginia?CMP=twt_gu
R.U.R., Brave New World, and in film, Metropolis and Modern Times. I'm
re-reading Oath of Fealty, Niven and Pournelle, 1981. It is dreary and
dated, wrong in almost every way, and reads like a wise-ass version of
Ayn Rand. Ugh, pew, meh. Not all science fiction is worth reading.
For sure.
Tiger! Tiger!, Bester, Childhood's End, Ender's Game, anything by LeGuin...
Classics. But would more contemporary selections be better? Some of those
short stories were very good, raised good questions, and were of course
readable in short enough times for the weaker students to persevere through.
(Going through a couple of Years Best anthologies, & noting authors.)
There's a 4-movie DVD available from EdwardRHamilton (7.95), Sphere, Contact,
Lost in Space and Red Planet - not my top picks for movies, but all much better
than run-of-the-mill SF on film. Best SF movies? Blade Runner, Handmaid's Tale,
what else ?
For pure schlock value, Forbidden Planet, The Day The Earth Stood Still,
Rocketship X-M (critics hated it), and I loved Close Encounters of the
Third Kind the first of 20 times I've seen it. A child of the 50s, of
course, loved THEM! and The Thing. When Planets Collide... Can't get
into Solaris, though. The original was the better of the two. Dustin
Hoffman should not go to space. :-)
Yes, Forbidden Planet made a very strong impression on me, may have switched
me away from Westerns. Yes, Close Encounters. Alien, Species?
I gravitate away from horror, as I just see them as murder stories. Alien,
however, was so dystopian it's a classic. Haven't been able to watch
Species yet.

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