Cruising down the river

[Joel Olson]

http://www.oklahomafarmreport.com/wire/news/2012/12/00558_MississippiTroubles12182012_163137.php

There was also a mention of ND holding back water for fracking.

[tim]

Post by Joel Olson
http://www.oklahomafarmreport.com/wire/news/2012/12/00558_MississippiTroubles12182012_163137.php
There was also a mention of ND holding back water for fracking.

But, but, but, there remains a tree on Easter Island! It MUST be cut
down!!!!!!

Germany is quickly becoming free from fossil fuels. We don't need no
stinkin' fracking. The cost of photovoltaics is one tenth it was a decade
ago.

Do we have to live in a world dictated by Halliburton and the Koch Brothers?
An rhetorical question.

[Joel Olson]

Post by tim

Post by Joel Olson
http://www.oklahomafarmreport.com/wire/news/2012/12/00558_MississippiTroubles12182012_163137.php
There was also a mention of ND holding back water for fracking.

But, but, but, there remains a tree on Easter Island! It MUST be cut
down!!!!!!
Germany is quickly becoming free from fossil fuels. We don't need no stinkin'
fracking. The cost of photovoltaics is one tenth it was a decade ago.
Do we have to live in a world dictated by Halliburton and the Koch Brothers?
An rhetorical question.

Well, since you mentioned it, and since I typed this in earlier today....

How times change. Germany is once again the Greenest country in Europe ["Nazi
Germany led Europe in the creation of nature reserves and implementation of
progressive forestry sensitive to what we would now call biodiversity."], but
this time the political framework is so leftist that the powerful Green party
members, Die Grunen, are commonly called watermelons: green on the outside, red
on the inside. That flip is common in the world. In the old days, conservation
was conservative, the proper activity of duck hunters and Teddy Roosevelts. And
progress used to belong to progressives, but then it frightened them, and they
turned on it. They came to oppose what they viewed as the technological threats
of progress, the despoilation of nature by progress, and the capitalist engine
of progress. That in turn offended the conservatives, who were fond of
capitalism, and opposing the newly antiprogress progressives meant opposing
their environmental programs as well. The flip was complete.
It has become a problem. Worldwide, the political stereotype these days is that
Green equals left, left equals Green, and right equals anti-Green. That may be
helpful for liberals, grounding them in the science and practice of natural
systems, but it blinds conservatives and badly hampers Green perspective.
Becoming politically narrow limits Greens' thinking and marginalizes their
effectiveness, because whatever they say is automatically dismissed by anyone
who has doubts about liberals. Countless conservatives refused to take climate
change seriously because they couldn't abide the idea of Al Gore being right. -
Stewart Brand

[tim]

Post by Joel Olson

Post by tim

Post by Joel Olson
http://www.oklahomafarmreport.com/wire/news/2012/12/00558_MississippiTroubles12182012_163137.php
There was also a mention of ND holding back water for fracking.

But, but, but, there remains a tree on Easter Island! It MUST be cut
down!!!!!!
Germany is quickly becoming free from fossil fuels. We don't need no
stinkin' fracking. The cost of photovoltaics is one tenth it was a
decade ago.
Do we have to live in a world dictated by Halliburton and the Koch
Brothers? An rhetorical question.

Well, since you mentioned it, and since I typed this in earlier today....
How times change. Germany is once again the Greenest country in Europe
["Nazi Germany led Europe in the creation of nature reserves and
implementation of progressive forestry sensitive to what we would now call
biodiversity."], but this time the political framework is so leftist that
the powerful Green party members, Die Grunen, are commonly called
watermelons: green on the outside, red on the inside. That flip is common
in the world. In the old days, conservation was conservative, the proper
activity of duck hunters and Teddy Roosevelts. And progress used to belong
to progressives, but then it frightened them, and they turned on it. They
came to oppose what they viewed as the technological threats of progress,
the despoilation of nature by progress, and the capitalist engine of
progress. That in turn offended the conservatives, who were fond of
capitalism, and opposing the newly antiprogress progressives meant
opposing their environmental programs as well. The flip was complete.
It has become a problem. Worldwide, the political stereotype these days is
that Green equals left, left equals Green, and right equals anti-Green.
That may be helpful for liberals, grounding them in the science and
practice of natural systems, but it blinds conservatives and badly hampers
Green perspective. Becoming politically narrow limits Greens' thinking and
marginalizes their effectiveness, because whatever they say is
automatically dismissed by anyone who has doubts about liberals. Countless
conservatives refused to take climate change seriously because they
couldn't abide the idea of Al Gore being right. - Stewart Brand

I just wrote the President and my new Congressgoon, a Tea Party favorite. I
am the Bellwether. When I get riled up, change happens. Perhaps I'm just
slow to recognize the tsunami of change, but it has happened. Tonight, a
couple of hours ago, the Republican Party dissolved because of the
obstructionist Tea Party. Brand is right in his analysis, but I would put
it more simply: conservatives do not practice political science, they major
in stupid. I don't think I've ever witnessed a more pathetic performance in
Congress than I saw tonight. Dreadful, sickening, pathos writ large.

They would murder us all, with a non-functional economy, a class war, and
unrelenting violence in hatred, racism, misogyny, anti-unionism,
creationism, and the very real threat of a gun culture that murders its own
children. Off the cliff we go. Whoopee!