Republican ideals - Mitt Romney - carried the day --- the moral victory over Obama

[tim]

Benjy Sarlin
November 28, 2012, 12:56 PM
TPM

Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least
he won the voters who really count.

That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed
in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and
whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.

"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except
those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens wrote.
"That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John
McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by
seven points, a 17-point shift."

According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go
forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the
middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican
ideals - Mitt Romney - carried the day."

(snip)

[Joel Olson]

Post by tim
Benjy Sarlin
November 28, 2012, 12:56 PM
TPM
Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least
he won the voters who really count.
That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed in
the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and whiter
voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.
"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except
those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens wrote. "That
means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John McCain lost
white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by seven points, a
17-point shift."
According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go
forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the
middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican ideals -
Mitt Romney - carried the day."
(snip)

That smacks of the less often heard idea these days of the "marketplace
of ideas".

"The USAF's motto was "Promoting a free market of ideas on the nation's
campuses," and here we encounter yet another signature theme of the Washington
right. Like many winger ideas -- anticommunism, for example -- it sounds good at
first. A "free market of ideas" sounds like "free inquiry," or a "free exchange
of ideas"; an environment in which hypotheses are tested and bad ones weeded out
while good ones goon the earn the respect of the community of scholars. But this
is not what the phrase means at all. Markets do not determine the objective
merit of things, only their price, which is to say, their merit in the eyes of
capital or consumers. To cast intellectual life as a "market" is to set up a
standard for measuring ideas quite different from the standard of truthfulness.
Here ideas are bid up or down depending on how well they please those with the
funds to underwrite inquiry -- which effectively means, how well they please
large corporations and the very wealthy." - Thomas Frank

[tim]

Post by Joel Olson

Post by tim
Benjy Sarlin
November 28, 2012, 12:56 PM
TPM
Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at
least he won the voters who really count.
That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an
op-ed in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning
wealthier and whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.
"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group
except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens
wrote. "That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While
John McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those
voters by seven points, a 17-point shift."
According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go
forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the
middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican
ideals - Mitt Romney - carried the day."
(snip)

That smacks of the less often heard idea these days of the "marketplace
of ideas".
"The USAF's motto was "Promoting a free market of ideas on the nation's
campuses," and here we encounter yet another signature theme of the
Washington right. Like many winger ideas -- anticommunism, for example --
it sounds good at first. A "free market of ideas" sounds like "free
inquiry," or a "free exchange of ideas"; an environment in which
hypotheses are tested and bad ones weeded out while good ones goon the
earn the respect of the community of scholars. But this is not what the
phrase means at all. Markets do not determine the objective merit of
things, only their price, which is to say, their merit in the eyes of
capital or consumers. To cast intellectual life as a "market" is to set up
a standard for measuring ideas quite different from the standard of
truthfulness. Here ideas are bid up or down depending on how well they
please those with the funds to underwrite inquiry -- which effectively
means, how well they please large corporations and the very wealthy." -
Thomas Frank

Pretty snooty, too.

"What a snob!" - Frothy Rick Santorum

[Wiley Neilson]

"tim" wrote in message news:***@earthlink.com...

Benjy Sarlin
November 28, 2012, 12:56 PM
TPM

Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least
he won the voters who really count.

That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed
in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and
whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.

"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except
those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens wrote.
"That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John
McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by
seven points, a 17-point shift."

According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go
forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the
middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican
ideals - Mitt Romney - carried the day."

Romney might have lost the election but it wasn't for lack of lying. I was
amused when he bought into the bullshit about Chrysler moving their
production to China that was spreading among the Republican blogs.

Over the past year I dedicated myself to exposing such bullshit to the
conservatives who forwarded it to me. It was clear they had a compelling
need to believe their own lies. This defines the angry white man who voted
for Romney. What compels him? He is afraid that when he drifts into a
minority demographic he will be treated as badly as he treats the present
minorities.

I noticed Benjy Sarlin didn't mention single white females. Apparently they
don't count as members of the middle class.

[tim]

Post by tim
Benjy Sarlin
November 28, 2012, 12:56 PM
TPM
Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least
he won the voters who really count.
That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed
in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and
whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.
"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except
those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens wrote.
"That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John
McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by
seven points, a 17-point shift."
According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go
forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the
middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican
ideals - Mitt Romney - carried the day."
Romney might have lost the election but it wasn't for lack of lying. I
was amused when he bought into the bullshit about Chrysler moving their
production to China that was spreading among the Republican blogs.
Over the past year I dedicated myself to exposing such bullshit to the
conservatives who forwarded it to me. It was clear they had a compelling
need to believe their own lies. This defines the angry white man who
voted for Romney. What compels him? He is afraid that when he drifts
into a minority demographic he will be treated as badly as he treats the
present minorities.
I noticed Benjy Sarlin didn't mention single white females. Apparently
they don't count as members of the middle class.

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/30/jason_sudeikis_mitt_romney_sounds_like_a_black_comic_imitating_a_white_guy/

[High Miles]

Post by Wiley Neilson
Romney might have lost the election but it wasn't for lack of lying.
I was amused when he bought into the bullshit about Chrysler moving
their production to China that was spreading among the Republican blogs.
Over the past year I dedicated myself to exposing such bullshit to the
conservatives who forwarded it to me. It was clear they had a
compelling need to believe their own lies. This defines the angry
white man who voted for Romney. What compels him? He is afraid that
when he drifts into a minority demographic he will be treated as badly
as he treats the present minorities.
I noticed Benjy Sarlin didn't mention single white females. Apparently
they don't count as members of the middle class.
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My benighted, original mate has become a rabid republican and Obama
hater, so the fact that I predicted his candidate's defeat caused him
to splutter and no doubt
turn several colors when it actually happened.

As you did, I sent proof of the falsehood of every stupid blog crap
received.
For the first time in my recollection, he became unhinged.

I laughed a lot. :-D

[Wiley Neilson]

"High Miles" wrote in message news:50ba4c8e$0$27263$***@usenet-news.net...



As you did, I sent proof of the falsehood of every stupid blog crap
received.
For the first time in my recollection, he became unhinged.

I laughed a lot. :-D

It was pitiful. I was called all sorts of names for telling them the truth.
They fell silent after the election.